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Amanda Kovattana's avatar

What a beautifully explained and timely article. Thank-you. More confusion is on its way, today, as a Thai XX boxer is boxing the Algerian XY boxer. She has a classic Thai tomboy lesbian haircut so looks like a man to Westerners. The general public often confuse Thailand with Taiwan so will think the two controversial XY boxers are in the ring together which they cannot be because they are in a different weight class as I just figured out.

Thai nationals and boxing enthusiasts have been talking about the controversy. The Thai language has only one pronoun and use the word woman and man as a modifier. So they are not confused as to who is male and who is female. Nor are they burdened with American transgender ideology. They have a third gender tradition that recognizes a cross-dressing presentation as gay or transvestite. Just as Thailand have the male ladyboys, she would be called a tom short for tomboy.( I am also called a tom.)

Some say if he is being allowed to box then so be it; some say the women should refuse to box these men. She herself wants to box the Algerian, and her fans are rooting for her. Both she and her fans feel that if she wins she will have shown that her skill is superior. Superior enough to overcome his male advantage.

This English language article, from a Thai publication for expats and tourists, which uses the prescribed preferred pronouns of the Associated Press, tells her story. The quotes from Thai nationals are likely translated from the Thai, so should not be construed as an affirmation of the sex of the boxers who are male. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2024/08/04/thai-boxer-janjaem-guarantees-bronze-prepares-for-challenging-imane-khelif/

This second article interviews the boxers family and they are from up country, not Bangkok which is more influenced by Western LGBT politics. They appear to fully accept their lesbian tom daughter though they do not mention it, just as mine accept me, but don't talk about it in polite society. The author of the article, however, goes onto to describe the Algerian boxer and frames the controversy in American trans ideological terms. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2024/08/05/janjaem-vs-khelif-olympic-semifinal-bout-draws-attention-beyond-the-ring/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEe1fhleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHW8KzsU4B9mJHoEp3yRyR4cZIgnt96sDC7DNY4ApC7Zh_JwD2M-fzzKR6A_aem_azkxYmz1hBvTOsYGo9GJOg

I will write a substack about all this once the matches are finished.

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Mariah Burton Nelson's avatar

Ha ha how prescient. And oh yes such injuries are already happening.

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