There was one on the swim team at Harvard, Schuyler Bailer. She was recruited for the women’s team as a top swimmer but transitioned after high school. They let her join the men’s team where she was at the bottom but did somewhat better after a few years of testosterone.
There was a trans man in the Milan Olympics. Nobody cared; they just wished him luck. Why? “He” competed in the woman’s slalom and passed the same drug tests as all the other women. No transphobia, no hate. Hmmm, 🤔 why don’t transmen suffer the same degree of dysphoria when competing in their biological sex class? 🤔 hmmm
Because they would not make the men’s team in the Olympics. Both trans identified want to be on the women’s team. As long as the actual women is not medically transing to a male she can qualify but if she denies that she is a woman then she shouldn’t compete imo
Of course! I was being facetious. However, I do think we should allow her to compete in the women's category. It shows it's not about bias against trans-identifying people, it's about fairness. She is not competing with an unfair advantage. If she passed all the same tests, let her compete.
Nikki Hilz ran in the Olympics women’s races as nonbinary trans pre medicalizing. She said she was going to afterwards. It annoyed me that she refused to be a called a female and claimed her achievements for her community.
I'm interested in the point you're raising about women who deny that they're female yet want to compete in the female category. There's some precedent for exclusion. When Sweetbriar College made their historic decision to exclude males who identify as women, based on their original charter as a women's college, they decided to also exclude women who identify as anything other than women. Because they're a women's college, for women. They "require applicants to be assigned female at birth and consistently live and identify as women." If you claim not to be a woman, you don't belong there.
The same could be true for the female category in sports. On the one hand, it doesn't matter what your religious or other beliefs are. That's what TERFS are proposing for with the men's category: trans-ID males, regardless of what they call themselves, belong there.
On the other hand, if you sincerely propose that you're not female (even though you are), why are you competing against females? Intriguing! Thanks, Betty.
Virtually none. Because by trans men you mean women. Schuyler Bailer a couple years ago was allowed to keep her college scholarship at Harvard and switch to the men’s team. She was much more successful competing against women despite apparent T use. Otherwise no.
I will take, of course, whatever win we can get, but I still don't think it will help us in the long run.
As you point out, this insane delusion is everywhere, now baked into society at all levels, and a win from this Supreme Court will only cause our opponents -- who pretend to be liberal -- to dig in their heels deeper. Every decision the SC makes is automatically tainted by its other decisions, many of them, in my opinion, grotesque and obscene (such as the ones today shitting all over immigrants and giving gun nuts even more rights than they already have).
In other words, yes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That doesn't mean the clock is good at telling time.
I just wish this madness would stop now. Enough is enough! We all know this is wrong it hurts everyone involved. The girls being cheated of their reward for training hard for years, and the boys who are reviled for cheating - even though the adults (who should know better) enable it!
I still hold a kernel of hope that SCOTUS will go rogue and declare that Title IX means what it says and rule that no state can violate Title IX, thereby precluding any male in any state from competing in the W&G category in any sport.
Are there any Trans Men in Men’s sports? I don’t mean shooting etc.. I mean swimming running jumping etc? Do you know of any, Mariah?
There was one on the swim team at Harvard, Schuyler Bailer. She was recruited for the women’s team as a top swimmer but transitioned after high school. They let her join the men’s team where she was at the bottom but did somewhat better after a few years of testosterone.
There was a trans man in the Milan Olympics. Nobody cared; they just wished him luck. Why? “He” competed in the woman’s slalom and passed the same drug tests as all the other women. No transphobia, no hate. Hmmm, 🤔 why don’t transmen suffer the same degree of dysphoria when competing in their biological sex class? 🤔 hmmm
Because they would not make the men’s team in the Olympics. Both trans identified want to be on the women’s team. As long as the actual women is not medically transing to a male she can qualify but if she denies that she is a woman then she shouldn’t compete imo
Of course! I was being facetious. However, I do think we should allow her to compete in the women's category. It shows it's not about bias against trans-identifying people, it's about fairness. She is not competing with an unfair advantage. If she passed all the same tests, let her compete.
Nikki Hilz ran in the Olympics women’s races as nonbinary trans pre medicalizing. She said she was going to afterwards. It annoyed me that she refused to be a called a female and claimed her achievements for her community.
Yes and that is a statement in itself: We know u r female even tho you may deny it.
I don’t get it, Betty. If Trans men are men, why should they even want to be in a women’s event?
They’ll never win, or even qualify.
I'm interested in the point you're raising about women who deny that they're female yet want to compete in the female category. There's some precedent for exclusion. When Sweetbriar College made their historic decision to exclude males who identify as women, based on their original charter as a women's college, they decided to also exclude women who identify as anything other than women. Because they're a women's college, for women. They "require applicants to be assigned female at birth and consistently live and identify as women." If you claim not to be a woman, you don't belong there.
The same could be true for the female category in sports. On the one hand, it doesn't matter what your religious or other beliefs are. That's what TERFS are proposing for with the men's category: trans-ID males, regardless of what they call themselves, belong there.
On the other hand, if you sincerely propose that you're not female (even though you are), why are you competing against females? Intriguing! Thanks, Betty.
Sorry Mariah! Didn’t see! You’d already made the point!! Too many chefs!!
Exactly.
Virtually none. Because by trans men you mean women. Schuyler Bailer a couple years ago was allowed to keep her college scholarship at Harvard and switch to the men’s team. She was much more successful competing against women despite apparent T use. Otherwise no.
I will take, of course, whatever win we can get, but I still don't think it will help us in the long run.
As you point out, this insane delusion is everywhere, now baked into society at all levels, and a win from this Supreme Court will only cause our opponents -- who pretend to be liberal -- to dig in their heels deeper. Every decision the SC makes is automatically tainted by its other decisions, many of them, in my opinion, grotesque and obscene (such as the ones today shitting all over immigrants and giving gun nuts even more rights than they already have).
In other words, yes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That doesn't mean the clock is good at telling time.
I just wish this madness would stop now. Enough is enough! We all know this is wrong it hurts everyone involved. The girls being cheated of their reward for training hard for years, and the boys who are reviled for cheating - even though the adults (who should know better) enable it!
Yup.
I still hold a kernel of hope that SCOTUS will go rogue and declare that Title IX means what it says and rule that no state can violate Title IX, thereby precluding any male in any state from competing in the W&G category in any sport.
A guy can dream, right?
Thank you, Mariah. Your articles are always clear and thoughtful.
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